Summer Transfer Window 2017/18 - Rumours & Signings
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I want whatever cm's been smoking.
Funny how he only answers certain quotes too he always seems very salty
I would ban him but I know nobody takes him seriously.
Don't think it's been mentioned but we've signed a LB:
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/269167-liverpool-fc-complete-andy-robertson-signing
Can't really say I ever really paid much attention to him whenever Hull played so no idea what to expect. He's got to be better than Moreno though.
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/269167-liverpool-fc-complete-andy-robertson-signing
Can't really say I ever really paid much attention to him whenever Hull played so no idea what to expect. He's got to be better than Moreno though.
Ok, let's put it to the vote. Poll added.
Don't worry, we'll count Coutinho votes as votes to ban too.
Kevin Stewart has completed his move to Hull - £5.5m rising to £8m! He's proof that with a bit of hard work and understanding the game and your limitations, you don't need a great deal of ability to make a career for yourself.
Great business by us to. Picked up for nothing, used to pad out the squad for a couple of years and sold for a decent fee.
The attraction of Ox is his versatility. I've never been convinced the links with us were genuine but I didn't mind the idea - he can play as a wing back, winger or in central midfield.
If the Chelsea link is true then as you say, you'd have to assume he's being signed primarily as a wing back. Chelsea were fortunate to have kept Moses and Alonso fit and available for the most part last season as they were pivotal to how they played and they had/have no natural cover for either.
Great business by us to. Picked up for nothing, used to pad out the squad for a couple of years and sold for a decent fee.
The attraction of Ox is his versatility. I've never been convinced the links with us were genuine but I didn't mind the idea - he can play as a wing back, winger or in central midfield.
If the Chelsea link is true then as you say, you'd have to assume he's being signed primarily as a wing back. Chelsea were fortunate to have kept Moses and Alonso fit and available for the most part last season as they were pivotal to how they played and they had/have no natural cover for either.
£35m? What happened to all the talk of £50-70m bids?
It probably won't get the headlines that other deals have but if you really do pay £50m for Matic, in real terms that's possibly the most expensive deal of the summer. He's about to turn 29 - you'd do well to get 3, maybe 4 good seasons out of him.
It probably won't get the headlines that other deals have but if you really do pay £50m for Matic, in real terms that's possibly the most expensive deal of the summer. He's about to turn 29 - you'd do well to get 3, maybe 4 good seasons out of him.
I understand the theory but in the last few days all the talk was that PSG were preparing a £50-70m bid. Now it's £35m.
It's pre-season for crying out loud. Players come and go all the time and clubs don't fall apart. Of course you're better with him but you've lost better players and replaced them.
On the general point of whether to sell him and if so, for how much. There's no right answer - lose him now and be worse off in the short term or let him go next summer, get nothing for him and have no control of where he goes. The one thing you don't do (unless they offer stupid money) is sell him to City - either keep him or sell him to PSG/Bayern.
The bigger issue here isn't Sanchez but how Arsenal keep finding themselves in a position where their best players are running down their contracts and leaving Arsenal in a no win situation. This should have been resolved 12 months ago and if there was no sign of him committing to a new deal then he should have been sold there and then or at the very least began the process of identifying and signing his replacement so they weren't left shafted now.
I've read that Danilo is being signed as a midfielder as much as a fullback.
I guess the response to that is how often is everybody fit and available? Our current central midfield options are Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana and Coutinho. Given that (for the most part) any system we play will be some kind of variation of a 3 man midfield and 2/3 of the 5 players I mentioned aren't even natural CM's, I think it's fair to say that Can will get his fair share of games.
As well as keeping Can, we desperately need to add another natural CM to our squad - if they can play in both the holding and more advanced position then great but the holding/defensive role has to be the priority. I touched on it in the pre-season thread, we can't find ourself with a midfield 3 of Wijnaldum, Lallana and Coutinho next season. To be fair to Wijnaldum, he's taken to playing in midfield like a duck to water but it's not his natural position and he's not naturally defensive enough to make up for having Lallana and Coutinho ahead of him.
Who knows whether we'll sign Keita but we need him as well as Can, not instead of. As above, we only have Can and Henderson as natural central midfielders at the moment and who knows whether Henderson's foot injury is completely behind him.
Agree about the frustrations around Can but in his defence, he really came into his own at the end of last season and was quite possibly our best player in the last couple of months.
Agree about the frustrations around Can but in his defence, he really came into his own at the end of last season and was quite possibly our best player in the last couple of months.
A replay of PSG's goal?
Whats your thoughts on Grujic, or maybe even Milner filling that CM berth? I think this will be a make or break season for Hendo, can he stay fit or is he a another sturridge
I still think central defender is more important position to fill, outside of Matip, the rest of our CB's are very poor, at least we have a LB now.
Grujic is an interesting one. He's massive and clearly talented but he looks incredibly raw and somebody that will need to be eased in slowly. If he plays regularly we'll be playing with 10 men a lot too because he really does love a needless lunging tackle. Milner can obviously play in midfield if needed but if pre-season is anything to go by, he's still seen as a left back first and foremost. Also, even if you play him in midfield, like most of our midfielders he's somebody that will want to play/more comfortable playing in the more advanced roles of a 3 man midfield and isn't a natural in a 2 man midfield.
Hopefully Henderson's injury is behind him now but I really wouldn't like to go into a season without adding another centre mid that's comfortable either holding in a 3 man midfield or a central 2 man midfield. Henderson and Can (maybe Wijnaldum at a push) are our only midfielders that are comfortable in a holding midfield role or you wouldn't be scared playing them in a 2 man midfield and 12 months ago if you asked either of them or supporters what their best position was, most would say box to box midfield.
As for our defence, as I keep saying, the quality (or lack of) of our defenders is exaggerated by how we play. Lovren looked great at Southampton after all. Being a CB for this Liverpool side is a really big challenge though. Take yesterday as an example - our 2 full backs are naturally midfield players, our holding midfielder is naturally an attacking/creative midfielder and our 2 box to box players are naturally attacking mids/fowards/wingers.
Despite that, yea, we definitely could do with a CB and I'm sure we'll sign one but right now if you gave me a choice of a CB or CM, I'd take the CM all day. With Gomez and Sakho still around at least we've got some cover at CB but we're a Henderson or Can injury away from being really short in CM.
My criticisms of Can haven't been down to his ability but his decision making and inability to make the most of his talent. As above though, he really came into his own at the back end of last season and there's no a chance I'd sell him for £30m.
We're already short of central midfielders and would struggle to sign an established, ready made replacement for £30m. You only have to look at our pursuit of Keita to see that as soon as we go for a player of any note, the price goes through the roof.
I'm no longer alright, I'm now amazing?Sigh, I used to think you were an alright member what happened