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The Radeon RX 5700 XT Owners Thread.

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When it's hot inside never use PL level PL at 0.
Here is what you do.
1.100mv
2100Mhz
Leave Vram at stock speed.
Fan curve should be at the max you can audibly deal with. For me it's 65C. So what I do is a create a idle temp of 35C and just ramp it straight up to 65C beyond 45C. And it's a flat line at 65C. Temps are pretty low for me doing that.

Hi, it wasnt stable at 1.100mv

everything on stock boost 2035mhz, ingame around 2050mhz GPU 79c - Junction 103c Fan 63% stock 1.2v

so playing around I settled for this but need to play some more if its stable
Boost 2106 - ingame stays 2070-2075mhz - GPU 74c - Junction 95c Fan 65% 1.150v
So I gained over stock while lowering voltage and lowering temps this card comes highly clocked so cant expect much more unless water cooling

bare in mind its very humid right now so I would expect this will drop 10-15c once it gets cooler again

with advanced FAN control in AMD lowest I can set fan is 15% is there no way I could get it 0% when its idle or just general windows use ?

Thanks
 
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with advanced FAN control in AMD lowest I can set fan is 15% is there no way I could get it 0% when its idle or just general windows use
No and its dumb and drives me insane! If you want fans to be off (zero RPM) you have to leave it at auto fan curve and can only adjust the max fan speed. But if you set a custom fan curve under advanced fan control there is no option for zero RPM. Just nuts!
 
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So, in my quest for a perfectly silent pc at air cooling at load, I am reducing the voltage of my Sapphire 5700xt. It is already stable and underclocked to 1900mhz via MSI AB. The voltage was previously stable at 1080mv, but games would crash at a lower mv when using AMD Wattman. Ever since I got MSI AB working, I am now using this tool exclusively and am ignoring AMD Wattman.

Over the past 2 days, I have reduced the voltage in 10mv increments (1080mv down to 1000mv). Stability is determined by 20min COD MW sessions, which is one of the more gpu demanding games I play. While I will continue decreasing until the game crashes, I am disappointed by the lack of decrease in temps. Core temps was 75C, now its 73C. Junction was 90C, now is 83C. So an 80mv decrease results in 1-2C core, and 7C Junction temp decrease.

Is this in line with anyone else?
 
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So, in my quest for a perfectly silent pc at air cooling at load, I am reducing the voltage of my Sapphire 5700xt. It is already stable and underclocked to 1900mhz via MSI AB. The voltage was previously stable at 1080mv, but games would crash at a lower mv when using AMD Wattman. Ever since I got MSI AB working, I am now using this tool exclusively and am ignoring AMD Wattman.

Over the past 2 days, I have reduced the voltage in 10mv increments (1080mv down to 1000mv). Stability is determined by 20min COD MW sessions, which is one of the more gpu demanding games I play. While I will continue decreasing until the game crashes, I am disappointed by the lack of decrease in temps. Core temps was 75C, now its 73C. Junction was 90C, now is 83C. So an 80mv decrease results in 1-2C core, and 7C Junction temp decrease.

Is this in line with anyone else?

Yes the GPU will target higher temps in favour of lower noise, so the fan will always ramp down if temps are under 75/100c, if you don't mind the noise also set a high fan profile.

Also, just reducing volts on its own doesn't necessarily lower power consumption and with that temps, set AB's OSD to monitor power consumption, stock its usually 190 to 210 Watts depending on the GPU, i find that reducing power targets helps reduce temps.
 
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In terms of fan longevity, is it a case of zero rpm fans until they are needed are better than having fans on all the time, even at a low rpm? Is it usage over time that tends to kill fan bearings? Or could it be worse if the fans are 0 rpm then ramp straight up to 40,50% etc. if you jump straight into a GPU intensive game?
 
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In terms of fan longevity, is it a case of zero rpm fans until they are needed are better than having fans on all the time, even at a low rpm? Is it usage over time that tends to kill fan bearings? Or could it be worse if the fans are 0 rpm then ramp straight up to 40,50% etc. if you jump straight into a GPU intensive game?

I turn 0 Fan off, at idle they are at low RPM, it shouldn't hurt the fans over time but it is better that the GPU runs cooler over its life.
 
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Hi, it wasnt stable at 1.100mv

everything on stock boost 2035mhz, ingame around 2050mhz GPU 79c - Junction 103c Fan 63% stock 1.2v

so playing around I settled for this but need to play some more if its stable
Boost 2106 - ingame stays 2070-2075mhz - GPU 74c - Junction 95c Fan 65% 1.150v
So I gained over stock while lowering voltage and lowering temps this card comes highly clocked so cant expect much more unless water cooling

bare in mind its very humid right now so I would expect this will drop 10-15c once it gets cooler again

with advanced FAN control in AMD lowest I can set fan is 15% is there no way I could get it 0% when its idle or just general windows use ?

Thanks
You need a higher fan speed. Try 75% @ 50C.
And no 0 fan unfortunately.
 
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Yes the GPU will target higher temps in favour of lower noise, so the fan will always ramp down if temps are under 75/100c, if you don't mind the noise also set a high fan profile.

Also, just reducing volts on its own doesn't necessarily lower power consumption and with that temps, set AB's OSD to monitor power consumption, stock its usually 190 to 210 Watts depending on the GPU, i find that reducing power targets helps reduce temps.

Excuse me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the process below decrease temps?
  • Keep clocks the same (1900mhz)
  • Keep fan curve the same (custom aggressive)
  • Decrease by 10mv increments
  • Play same game for same period of time (COD MW, 20min)
  • Look at AB and Open HW, verify temps/voltage maxs
  • Clear History of AB/OHW
  • Restart process until crash
I'm on the correct path right? Keeping everything else the same, lowering voltage until crash, will result in lower temps? I haven't crashed yet. Maybe I'm just expecting a larger decrease?
 
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I love my P600S also in Gunmetal Grey. How much did you pay for yours? I got mine for £116 it's a great case, my last one was the kolink citadel micro-atx, was rubbish for thermals.
Nice, i really like all the features. Installation was a breeze other than trying to figure out how the GPU Anti sag bracket works.

I paid £134, bought from OcuK. Could have got it a bit cheaper elsewhere, not as cheap as what you paid mind. However, OcuK were the only retailer that had all the parts i wanted and as i wanted to build it all this weekend, i had to pay a little extra. Worth it though now. :)

What intake/exhaust setup are you using? I've gone with positive pressure (to keep dust to a mimumum), 3x140mm front intakes, 360 AIO 3x 120MM fans as intake, and 1x 140MM exhaust. I can tell its working nicely as the exhaust fan is pumping out some heat.
 
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Nice, i really like all the features. Installation was a breeze other than trying to figure out how the GPU Anti sag bracket works.

I paid £134, bought from OcuK. Could have got it a bit cheaper elsewhere, not as cheap as what you paid mind. However, OcuK were the only retailer that had all the parts i wanted and as i wanted to build it all this weekend, i had to pay a little extra. Worth it though now. :)

What intake/exhaust setup are you using? I've gone with positive pressure (to keep dust to a mimumum), 3x140mm front intakes, 360 AIO 3x 120MM fans as intake, and 1x 140MM exhaust. I can tell its working nicely as the exhaust fan is pumping out some heat.


Weirdly enough I got mine from, erm. The World of Personal Computers, without giving them away too much lol when it had arrived it had come from OCUK but for a lot less than they charged online not sure why the box sticker and invoice said ocuk and not the world of PeeCees. I don't care for 116,totally woth it and knowing it came from oc is a relief I was deading it come smashed as it was middle of lockdown I got mine.

I'm running 4x 140mm BeQuiet pure wings 3 high speed,

3x intake-front and 1x exhaust rear, all running at 45%. I didn't need to pay that price as they're good but well overpriced for what they do lol.
 
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An updated picture for the ROH with the Red Devil in my new case, the Phanteks P600 Eclipse. One of the best cases I've ever used to be fair. :)

same one as me.
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Excuse me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the process below decrease temps?
  • Keep clocks the same (1900mhz)
  • Keep fan curve the same (custom aggressive)
  • Decrease by 10mv increments
  • Play same game for same period of time (COD MW, 20min)
  • Look at AB and Open HW, verify temps/voltage maxs
  • Clear History of AB/OHW
  • Restart process until crash
I'm on the correct path right? Keeping everything else the same, lowering voltage until crash, will result in lower temps? I haven't crashed yet. Maybe I'm just expecting a larger decrease?


The GPU has a power target, it will keep trying to push for that power target and if its doing that just lowering the target clocks aren't going to do much, unless you go daft with that.

Lower the power target to -5%, watch what happens. :)

Edit, by lowering the volts you can get the same Mhz at a lower power consumption, to the point where trying to maintain those clocks at lower volts becomes unstable, at that point lower the clocks.

But if you want the GPU to use less power start by capping the power a little lower, if the GPU is set to use 200 watt it will use 200 watts even if you set lower volts.
 
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@Kaapstad

An updated picture for the ROH with the Red Devil in my new case, the Phanteks P600 Eclipse. One of the best cases I've ever used to be fair. :)

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The GPU has a power target, it will keep trying to push for that power target and if its doing that just lowering the target clocks aren't going to do much, unless you go daft with that.

Lower the power target to -5%, watch what happens. :)

Edit, by lowering the volts you can get the same Mhz at a lower power consumption, to the point where trying to maintain those clocks at lower volts becomes unstable, at that point lower the clocks.

But if you want the GPU to use less power start by capping the power a little lower, if the GPU is set to use 200 watt it will use 200 watts even if you set lower volts.

Sorry to keep adding to this i'm thinking it on the fly....

My card out of the box is set to 190 Watts 1900'ish Mhz.

What i have done is set my power target to -7%, reduced the volts from 1200mv to 1080mv and reduced the clock target from 2100Mhz to 2050Mhz.

Its now running at more like 2000Mhz at 170 Watts, so i have gained about 5% performance for 20 Watts less power. Thats the right way to do it.
If i allow the GPU to target full 100% power (190 watt in my case) it will run, or try to run more like 2050Mhz and crash.

In this its setup like that...

OSD:
GPU Edge Tem, GPU junction Temp, GPU load, GPU Mhz, GPU power, Fan %

Believe it or not its running about 5c to 10c cooler than it would be with a 190 Watt target. (Junky cooler)

 
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Hi guys

I've just bought an Asus reference 5700 xt and have a question. With it at stock setting and running a benchmark like heaven it seems to be only running at around 1850 MHz with it maxed out. This is using Riva tuner for the read out. Just wondered what it should be boosting to?

Cheers
 
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